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edform
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 Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: Keeping messages unread for a day or two |
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Hi Folks,
I'm a newbie here having made the change from my newsreader of 15 years familiarity [Ameol2] and I'm generally very impressed with the quality of the program.
I only use the newsgroups for discussions in one forum and I often need to spend a bit of time thinking or researching before I answer messages. If I mark them kept with K there is no quick way to find them in a big message list. It doesn't seem to be possible to filter for kept messages, and there is no quick key to hop from one kept message to the next - or have I missed something?
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You are correct. I can look into adding "Kept" as a message status in the filter builder that would allow you to build a filter for this. Until then, you may want to consider using a scoring shortcut to score messages for followup. Then you can create various filters to view only messages within a score range.
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edform
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| administrator wrote: | | You are correct. I can look into adding "Kept" as a message status in the filter builder that would allow you to build a filter for this. Until then, you may want to consider using a scoring shortcut to score messages for followup. Then you can create various filters to view only messages within a score range. |
I had seen the scoring facility, but hadn't realised I could use it as a 'this is needed' filter seed. Thanks for the tip.
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edform
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I tried out the idea of scoring messages I want to keep till I'm ready to reply and set up a filter to find them but this has a disadvantage which I think may also apply to filtering by a 'kept' flag.
When I filter with Score = 100 I don't just get all of the messages I've tagged in this way, I get the thread as well so I have to scroll down to the messages I actually want and this is cumbersome. I looked at the three 'message groups' alternatives, and none of them allows me to show only the score-tagged messages.
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This is because once the messages are threaded, NMP can't show a message in a thread unless all of it's parent messages are also visible. Therefore, you really only want the messages that you want to reply to loaded separately.
Here's a possibly better solution:
1) Create a "Saved Items" folder named "Followup".
2) When you see a message that you want to reply to, move the message to "Followup". You can set "Followup" as the default Move To folder and use CTRL-O as a shortcut.
3) Load the "Followup" folder to review the messages for followup and reply to them.
4) After replying, you can move them back to the original group to put them back in their original thread using "Move To <original group>".
Try it and let me know what you think.
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edform
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| administrator wrote: | | This is because once the messages are threaded, NMP can't show a message in a thread unless all of it's parent messages are also visible. Therefore, you really only want the messages that you want to reply to loaded separately. |
But the system can show threaded, unread messages without their thread ancestors, so I had hoped for a button like [new] and [unread] but [kept].
Nevertheless, I looked at this...
| administrator wrote: | Here's a possibly better solution:
1) Create a "Saved Items" folder named "Followup".
2) When you see a message that you want to reply to, move the message to "Followup". You can set "Followup" as the default Move To folder and use CTRL-O as a shortcut.
3) Load the "Followup" folder to review the messages for followup and reply to them.
4) After replying, you can move them back to the original group to put them back in their original thread using "Move To <original group>".
Try it and let me know what you think. |
...and it works very well. So I'll happily live with that if you don't add an alternative mechanism.
Thanks for the help: you do a good job with this fine program.
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| edform wrote: | | administrator wrote: | | This is because once the messages are threaded, NMP can't show a message in a thread unless all of it's parent messages are also visible. Therefore, you really only want the messages that you want to reply to loaded separately. |
But the system can show threaded, unread messages without their thread ancestors, so I had hoped for a button like [new] and [unread] but [kept]. |
I understand. I'll probably add it as a hidden by default option so as not to make the toolbar too cluttered for new users.
| edform wrote: | Nevertheless, I looked at this...
| administrator wrote: | Here's a possibly better solution:
1) Create a "Saved Items" folder named "Followup".
2) When you see a message that you want to reply to, move the message to "Followup". You can set "Followup" as the default Move To folder and use CTRL-O as a shortcut.
3) Load the "Followup" folder to review the messages for followup and reply to them.
4) After replying, you can move them back to the original group to put them back in their original thread using "Move To <original group>".
Try it and let me know what you think. |
...and it works very well. So I'll happily live with that if you don't add an alternative mechanism.
Thanks for the help: you do a good job with this fine program.
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I'm glad this solution works for you.
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edform
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| administrator wrote: | | edform wrote: | | But the system can show threaded, unread messages without their thread ancestors, so I had hoped for a button like [new] and [unread] but [kept]. |
I understand. I'll probably add it as a hidden by default option so as not to make the toolbar too cluttered for new users. |
I've just downloaded Beta 3.0.3 and turned on the [kept] button and it works beautifully. I note that you produced this change very rapidly after my feature request - You really do look after your work. Thank you very much.
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